Question because I find this kind of character fascinating. Is he morally gray or morally black? Does he do bad things in a *kill everything because they deserve it and the world must feel pain like I do* kind of a way or a *kill these specifically, because I can't right the wrong but I'll be damned if they ever get to do it again* kind of way?. Driven by vengeance he is a kind of anti-hero with a heart of ice, which only one person in the universe seem to be able to melt, his adopted daughter. She tries her best to send Kal on good or decent paths. Sometimes he disappoints her, other times, he does something that could be considered actually morally alright.
He shifts between gray and slightly black sometimes. In one chapter, for instance, he gets info that all the people he is investigating have an explosive chip installed in them by a cartel. The cartel shows up and says they will detonate the implants if he does not surrender. He does not surrender, and doesn't seem to care much that a whole heap of civilians just got exploded.Question because I find this kind of character fascinating. Is he morally gray or morally black? Does he do bad things in a *kill everything because they deserve it and the world must feel pain like I do* kind of a way or a *kill these specifically, because I can't right the wrong but I'll be damned if they ever get to do it again* kind of way?
He shifts between gray and slightly black sometimes. In one chapter, for instance, he gets info that all the people he is investigating have an explosive chip installed in them by a cartel. The cartel shows up and says they will detonate the implants if he does not surrender. He does not surrender, and doesn't seem to care much that a whole heap of civilians just got exploded.
The cartel had an operation going where they needed the civilians to continue working at a distribution terminal, them needing the civilians were the only guarantee basically. And if he had surrendered, he would have been implanted as well. Not killed, because they would have needed him to lead the investigation he had somewhere else.Why didn't he surrender though? That's what matters. The civilians, yeah that's awful, but what assurances were there that they actually wouldn't detonate them? What was to stop them from having both? What else was a stake?
You don't have to answer, of course, but I wouldn't be able to call it gray or black without a lot more info. From what I've read very few characters are fully morally black.
Guess they didn't need them that bad after all.The cartel had an operation going where they needed the civilians to continue working at a distribution terminal, them needing the civilians were the only guarantee basically. And if he had surrendered, he would have been implanted as well. Not killed, because they would have needed him to lead the investigation he had somewhere else.
Yeah, he's leaning more towards grey. Only villains are mostly morally black.
My first thought writing the scene where he strips down to go swimming was making it a soft moment, but believable of a male. I know men have body insecurities and can be vulnerable around chosen people. I feel like, men tend to get more angry and defensive rather than emotional (I wrote his brother to be like that, btw). I hoped that I'd set his character up ahead of time that makes his emotional reaction believable and readers more sympathetic instead of cringeWhat do you think needs more attention?
i've never heard this term before, but after reading the back and forth between you and Madman.... i think i have a morally black character in one of my WIPs.morally black
This character has a vendetta against 1 person in particular..... but kills a bunch of civilians innocent civilians to make him suffer and eventually lure him out. But he does this in the name of 'liberation' because he sees the OTHER guy as a heartless monster that needs to be removed (despite having killed countless innocents without batting an eye).Does he do bad things in a *kill everything because they deserve it and the world must feel pain like I do* kind of a way or a *kill these specifically, because I can't right the wrong but I'll be damned if they ever get to do it again* kind of way?
That old "you can't hunt monsters without becoming them" or whatever it is. Sounds believable to me. Even with all of those things he could still be a sympathetic character depending on how those motivations are applied in the moment. Most villains can be if you try hard enough and redemption always depends on what side of the line you're standing on.i've never heard this term before, but after reading the back and forth between you and Madman.... i think i have a morally black character in one of my WIPs.
This character has a vendetta against 1 person in particular..... but kills a bunch of civilians innocent civilians to make him suffer and eventually lure him out. But he does this in the name of 'liberation' because he sees the OTHER guy as a heartless monster that needs to be removed (despite having killed countless innocents without batting an eye).
the "bad guy" of the story become the "good guy" who saves the innocents by killing the "good guy" who turned into the "bad guy"![]()
Not all gentlemen are gentle men, but they do exist. There are many ways to prevent cringe. Happy to read if you need eyes.My first thought writing the scene where he strips down to go swimming was making it a soft moment, but believable of a male. I know men have body insecurities and can be vulnerable around chosen people. I feel like, men tend to get more angry and defensive rather than emotional (I wrote his brother to be like that, btw). I hoped that I'd set his character up ahead of time that makes his emotional reaction believable and readers more sympathetic instead of cringe![]()
I have not read your story, so I can't give my opinion on that, but I'm not the type of person who find things cringe. And yup, men can be emotional as well, don't even need to get defensive or angry about it. But everyone is different.My first thought writing the scene where he strips down to go swimming was making it a soft moment, but believable of a male. I know men have body insecurities and can be vulnerable around chosen people. I feel like, men tend to get more angry and defensive rather than emotional (I wrote his brother to be like that, btw). I hoped that I'd set his character up ahead of time that makes his emotional reaction believable and readers more sympathetic instead of cringe![]()