Qangata Out of Character (OOC) Discussion

Other options include consciousness, memories, or something we invent that is manifested in humans?? Or??
Log Horizon is a favorite fantasy series of mine where people get stuck in a video game. Every time they die in the game, they have to sacrifice memories from the real world to get revived. I've always found that to be profound. Memories are what makes us who we are for the most part. So, for them to keep going after they fall, they have to give up a part of themselves.

The deeper reason they have to give up their memories is actually similar to what we're doing here. There is an unknown, extraterrestrial being that brought humans into the game to harvest their memories and convert them into a resource it calls "empathium".

I just thought it's a useful example that might give food for thought. It's honestly too bad the author gave up on the books.
 
Something around fear, probably. We need to find a common line across the characters and then connect that to the resolution of the conflict. So, for example, if we focus on themes of fear and overcoming what is bigger than you, how does the horror element reflect that? And how does a potential resolution say (provide a viewpoint and/or message) on that?

Excellent! Yes, fear should be the root. We could take this in so many directions.

I'm terrible at philosophy.

I don't mean formal philosophy ... only our take on reality!!
 
sacrifice memories

oh my gosh, thinking of that short scene with Miki, who appears after being missing for a night, and I was hinting he'd encountered our "other" and couldn't remember what had happened to him. That fits in with this idea!
 
Excellent! Yes, fear should be the root. We could take this in so many directions.
Indeed. I'd like to see what the others think about that, and how we could approach it.

I think takadote said they'd be muting this thread, so not sure they are seeing these messages.

I don't mean formal philosophy ... only our take on reality!!
That's all? I have plenty of takes on reality!

oh my gosh, thinking of that short scene with Miki, who appears after being missing for a night, and I was hinting he'd encountered our "other" and couldn't remember what had happened to him. That fits in with this idea!
Certainly, but I do think we have to flesh it out quite a bit more if we were to go down that route. Specifically on questions like, why does the monster consume memories, and to what end?

Again, before we go any further, I'd really like some more opinions. We're not the only two here, lol. But I can write my post meanwhile. I won't mess with the monster in my post.
 
I like the idea of memories more, because it explains what happened in the past

What a great observation! It will be interesting to see what role memories serve in this story.

Who knows, maybe we might even have access to the memories of Tulugaak (the guy in the prologue)!
 
just a note about sprinkling Inuktitut words here and there - I purposely did not italicize them - does everyone agree with this convention?
Yes, I'm fine with that.

But its actions could just be similar to natural forces—neither good nor evil. They just are
I agree. Its actions being morally similar to a forest fire or a person eating a tomato makes the most sense to me. Of course, humans don't like being absorbed(?) by the creature, but the creature doesn't see anything wrong with it.

We need to find a common line across the characters and then connect that to the resolution of the conflict.
I think circle of life and connection with the natural world could work. There's probably a better term than 'circle of life' but it's late and that's what I mean in the end. Humanities spiritual link to nature is pretty big in Inuit beliefs, from what I remember. Probably a little basic of a suggestion, but we could try to push it to unnatural limits.

Grass is eaten by deer. Deer is eaten by man. Man dies and gets eaten by grass. But sometimes the Ijiraq shows up and eats mans soul. And around and around it goes. For its sin of eating and killing, does the Ijiraq die and become a meal too? Who eats it? Something higher or something lower? What powers will something gain if it eats a creature that gluts itself on human souls? What power must something have to kill a soul eater?

Maybe the Ijiraq doesn't really kill and it's outside of the food web. Maybe it just joins everything in a blissful union. No more violence, no more deadly circles of life. Just the ultimate connection between man, animal and nature. Harmony. All it wants is love.

Or maybe it's just doing it for the "te-he haha ur dead now, mortal. Get wrecked. Lolllll."

Lotta fun things to think about. My proposition is probably pretty vague and baked into the roleplay already, but I thought I'd at least mention it. I guess being vague isn't necessarily a bad thing there. Connections to the current or previous environment, people, etc. It can be spread around pretty far.

My character Jericho has some thoughts on the circle of life, so I'm biased towards it.

Wondering if you had any thoughts about the themes of fear and memories?
I'll go beef up the backstory a little more, haha. If history and knowledge (collective information: ie. books and studies) count as 'memory' then it should be fine?

We need to find a common line across the characters
Would it help if we all started yammering about our characters?
 
I think circle of life and connection with the natural world could work. There's probably a better term than 'circle of life' but it's late and that's what I mean in the end. Humanities spiritual link to nature is pretty big in Inuit beliefs, from what I remember. Probably a little basic of a suggestion, but we could try to push it to unnatural limits.

Grass is eaten by deer. Deer is eaten by man. Man dies and gets eaten by grass. But sometimes the Ijiraq shows up and eats mans soul. And around and around it goes. For its sin of eating and killing, does the Ijiraq die and become a meal too? Who eats it? Something higher or something lower? What powers will something gain if it eats a creature that gluts itself on human souls? What power must something have to kill a soul eater?

Maybe the Ijiraq doesn't really kill and it's outside of the food web. Maybe it just joins everything in a blissful union. No more violence, no more deadly circles of life. Just the ultimate connection between man, animal and nature. Harmony. All it wants is love.

Or maybe it's just doing it for the "te-he haha ur dead now, mortal. Get wrecked. Lolllll."

Excellent contribution to the discussion. Thanks for that, great food for thought.
 
Would it help if we all started yammering about our characters?

Everyone feel free to share things about their characters in this thread!
 
Grass is eaten by deer. Deer is eaten by man. Man dies and gets eaten by grass. But sometimes the Ijiraq shows up and eats mans soul. And around and around it goes. For its sin of eating and killing, does the Ijiraq die and become a meal too? Who eats it? Something higher or something lower? What powers will something gain if it eats a creature that gluts itself on human souls? What power must something have to kill a soul eater?
Grass and a lot of plant life is an exception to the life-eats-other-life convention. It doesn't actually eat anything. It just absorbs readily available nutrients from the soil and sun to synthesize its own food.

Not all plants are like that though. The best example is the venus flytrap. It traps bugs and eats them.

Some plants have symbiotic relationships with other more complex species. Bees help flowers reproduce, and in exchange, they receive food (nectar and pollen) which they turn into honey for long-term storage. That's all bees really eat.

So, it's not as if there is a universal "life must eat other life" rule. It's more like a convention. A lot of species on Earth survive this way, but it isn't the only. I personally think that all life is valuable because it seems to be quite the miracle.

My two cents on the above quote, and nothing more :)
 
I used to teach about "food chains"

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But, I think, too, that there are going to be things happening in our story outside of natural ecological cycles!
 
Are we going to get a lore thread? I'm writing my entry and I'm finding myself going back and forth this thread looking for basic info. We don't have much right now but this could get tedious if the lore expands more.
 
Are we going to get a lore thread? I'm writing my entry and I'm finding myself going back and forth this thread looking for basic info. We don't have much right now but this could get tedious if the lore expands more.

yes, great idea, I will get started on that
 
Post made! It was a little bit rushed because I have to stay focused on my driving theory test, but I hope it's good enough. I promise to do better when I'm finally done in the 9th of June!
 
I love it! I am so intrigued by Ioanna. I can’t wait to see more of her. I really like the way you began the entry with the vision!
 
@Username: required - excellent entry into the story! I felt the sense of emergency!! Well done!!




One question - "the woman and the fox" - was that just a vision?

(Also - just to mention - there are no bushes on the tundra - just low-lying, ground-hugging plants)
 
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