How to use AI to help your writing

Naomasa298

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Time for a controversial topic! We've had this discussion on the forum before, but this is for the benefit of the new forum and new readers.

Let me first give you the golden rule.
DON'T USE AI TO DO THE WRITING

I repeat.
DON'T USE AI TO DO THE WRITING

That means, don't get it to generate any of the words, or even ideas. You do that, and you'll be persona non grata at almost all publishers, as well as on this board. WF.org does not condone using AI to generate posts, let alone writing. Certain other boards do, this one doesn't.

Use a spellchecker or grammar checker by all means, but that doesn't require AI. Don't use machine suggestions for grammar corrections, AI or not. Computers misunderstand intent, and using an AI grammar checker risks losing your own voice.

So how CAN you use it?

AI can be a useful tool for research. It can cross reference sources and come up with the information you need faster than just searching Google. But DOUBLE-CHECK everything it tells you. It's quite easy for AI to get itself into a hallucination, and give you completely the wrong info.

Secondly, use it to help you identify areas of your writing that may need attention. For example, in pacing, in immersion, in things like sentence lengths. Be very wary of advice it gives you - make sure you understand WHY it is suggesting something, and more importantly, if you agree with it. It is not "right", and particularly when you're using a very distinctive writing style, you risk losing it and degenerating into a generic voice that loses personality. AI can help identify when a story may need to quicken in pace, or where your rhythm loses engagement because the sentences all have the same length. It can do things like identify where your sentence construction is monotonous, like "A does B". And it can also help you spot repetitions. But you have to tell it specifically what you want it to concentrate on, and do several passes, in small chunks. It's not going to scan a 6000 word story and churn out a big list of everything for you to fix in one go.

It can also help with localisation (e.g. switching from Americanese to British English for vice versa) and nothing where sentences don't sound natural, but again, don't use its rewritten suggestions. Tell it not to give you suggestions for rewritten text. Instead, if you agree with what it says, rewrite it yourself, in your own words.

In other words, use AI like a poor man's editor.

And it can help with brainstorming. Don't use it to generate plots. The ones it does come up with are bland and unimaginative. Instead, come up with your own plots and ask the AI for feedback. Ask it if the plot makes narrative sense, or is believable. Use what it comes back with to spark further ideas. Don't use its suggestions for plots, these will have the same issue as asking it to generate plots. AI might spot some flaws in your idea, but it's up to you to fix them. Take everything it says with a tablespoon of sodium chloride.

AI can also be a good analytical tool to map out plot beats or count instances of things in your story. It can also summarise your story into bullet points, which is useful for when you come to review your work.

I use AI extensively for the above things. It helps fan a creative spark. Sometimes, your creativity will stir just from having someone (something) to talk to about your idea. But every word, every sentence, every idea is mine.

And never, ever, even think about submitting work written wholly or partially by AI. If you do, and it's spotted, you could end up being blacklisted by a publisher or an agent, gain a reputation, and have doors slammed in your face. Editors talk to each other. You don't want them talking about you for the wrong reasons.

There is a very, very small set of instances of people with certain disabilities who might have legitimate reasons for using AI to generate their text. In my opinion, most people don't have those reasons. If you're a writer, write.

AI can be useful for generating cover art though.
 
You do make good points. I hadn't realized those capabilities even existed and I can see how they would be useful.

I'm old school though and the thought of inputting my work or my thoughts into any AI program makes my skin crawl. I'll just stay over here with my laptop, screaming at the kids to stay off my lawn through my window.
 
I really don't think the idea of using AI to give any sort of meaningful feedback on stories is sensible. It can spot misspellings etc (though can't tell how many Rs are in Strawberry half the time), but it's got absolutely zero ability to actually evaluate your work.

LLMs work by breaking text down into numbers and effectively doing incredibly complex maths to figure out what the next word should be - at no point does it actually process your words /as words/, and thus cannot tell you if you need to cut back on adverbs or whatever. Any feedback it gives you is based entirely on it deciding what the most likely human-sounding response to your prompt is according to statistical analysis of its training data. If it tells you to cut down on adverbs, it's doing so because it's identified that as a standard piece of advice, not because your writing would actually benefit from that change - remember, it never sees your writing, only data points.

Then there's the whole fact that it's an unrepentant yes-man and will just give you what it thinks you want to hear.
 
in the old forum (i think), i mentioned how i used the "summary" function to my benefit.
It kinda happened by accident: i opened up a work document at work and Adobe's new AI Assistant popped up asking me if i wanted it to give me a summary of the 2 page document. my first thought was "Um, no... I can read it myself, thanks." My second thought was "What kind of summary would you give me?"
it gave me a section by section summary.

So then, I thought, what if I had it summarize the first 10 chapter of my manuscript?
It gave me a chapter by chapter summary in bullet points of main details. This was SUPER helpful to me because then i could see in bullet point format the scenes that I unconsciously duplicated and "shallow" chapters I needed to flesh out better.
 
Well, I find it useful. Others will have their own experiences and opinions, which is fine too.
The only thing I'd say is to play around with it and see how easy it is to prompt it into giving you specific advice.

If you ask it "Do you think I'm using too many adverbs", do you find that it says yes? What if you ask it "Do you think I should use more adverbs?" What if you say "I've been told adverbs are great - am I using too many/not enough?" If you find you can deliberately get it to give the advice you're looking for, ask yourself how you're prompting it accidentally.

The other question to ask is, of course, when was the last time it came back and said (just like happens to us all at some point with human critics) "sorry but I just thought this was a bit pants."? If you can't a crit partner to tell you something is crap, then you can't really trust them to tell you when something's good either.
 
The other question to ask is, of course, when was the last time it came back and said (just like happens to us all at some point with human critics) "sorry but I just thought this was a bit pants."? If you can't a crit partner to tell you something is crap, then you can't really trust them to tell you when something's good either.

Depends what you want a critique partner to do. A good development critique partner will help you to make a story as good as it can be. That doesn't mean they'll make it great if it's a pig's ear in the first place. Same as an editor. And yes, how you prompt it is important as well.

I'm not telling anyone that they MUST use AI. I'm suggesting to them how they can use it, if they want to. Like any tool, you can use it well, or you can use it badly.
 
Depends what you want a critique partner to do. A good development critique partner will help you to make a story as good as it can be. That doesn't mean they'll make it great if it's a pig's ear in the first place. Same as an editor. And yes, how you prompt it is important as well.

I'm not telling anyone that they MUST use AI. I'm suggesting to them how they can use it, if they want to. Like any tool, you can use it well, or you can use it badly.
Ofc, and there's valid ways to use it (brainstorming being the most obvious), but it's always good to point out it's limitations so others can make an informed decision
 
I have used AI to help with research before. Simply trying to work out the right words to mash into Google to get the right results can be a nightmare. But I never once accept the information at face value and always verify all information. This applies to non-AI sources as well. If I'm going to write a piece of information into my work, I verify it from at least five reputable sources, and if I can't do that, I make sure to caveat the information to make it clear it's not to be taken as gosepl. It's surpirsing how often people will accept fiction as an information source,some readers assume the author knows what they're writing about even if it's baltanlty incorrect!

I do find some AI tools like Grammarly to be helpful in ensuring my writing is actually legible. I have a lot of trouble with spelling, tend to swap letters around or mix them up entirely and not notice. Which usually a spellcheck picks up on, and these days most of those are AI-assisted in some way.
 
While I've never used AI for writing fiction or poetry, many of my coworkers and I have used it for writing documents for work. We've found it does a pretty good job overall as long as you give it the right parameters, but you do have to look it over and make changes here and there. Overall, it does save a lot of time, at least for something that's not fiction, but I wouldn't use it as a feedback tool. I'd prefer to get feedback from someone who's part of my intended audience, and AI ain't it.
 
Another thing to point out is that AI will bend over backwards to make an idea, any idea, work within the context of your story. It’s up to you to be the pilot.

Like I could craft a story about a cruise ship and write in, “what would happen if the captain had an affair with the wife of the millionaire, and they plotted that guys death?” The AI is going to take it and run with it and try to make it work.

And if it ever says stuff like, “your readers will love this!” disregard immediately. It doesn’t know your audience — it operates on what it thinks the audience is based on algorithms.
 
Like I could craft a story about a cruise ship and write in, “what would happen if the captain had an affair with the wife of the millionaire, and they plotted that guys death?” The AI is going to take it and run with it and try to make it work.

It's not going to "try and make it work" as such, but it will try and compose a plot based on the things that have come up in its training material. And it'll be a pretty generic plot. You'd have to give it more direction than that for it to come up with something good, and even then, I'd still be wary of using it.
 
Right, I’m just saying that the AI will craft a long-winded reason of why it thinks your idea would work but it’s up to you to not take it at face value. You can take bits and pieces of it and mix it up for your own idea, but the AI must never be the driving force behind it all.
 
I wouldn't bother with LLMs at all. I don't think it has anything to offer that would be more useful than anything a human being could offer. Not to mention that they're almost all trained on a vast vault of stolen data and waste a lot of energy.
 
I use it extensively for research, mostly as a way to find what to read.

Because you can use a clumsy question, it is way quicker than trying to think "what do I put into Google?"
The better models give you links to their sources so you can check yourself.

But be aware all AI models hallucinate, so if it is important to you double check.
 
AI wants us to feed it our stories so it can learn our ways and replace us. Humans must fight back by writing gooder words, and the arms race begins. Evolution will soon produces humans capable by age 9 of writing magnificent prose on par with Hemingway halfway through a bottle of scotch. The future is now.
 
I fed Claude my draft and asked it to create a comprehensive psychological profile on each of my characters. Then, I asked it to provide ideas on what a person with that profile would do in various situations. It was a great tool for brainstorming ideas and to get better insight into the mind of my characters.
 
I think machine learning can be a great tool for many different fields of study as well as creative endeavors. Different algorithms are already in use in the US healthcare industry to help in diagnostic analysis and can even spot early signs of illnesses before a human can.

However, it is always who and how these tools are being used. Right now, it's a 'how can we use this new and seemingly cheap tool to increase shareholder value and cut costs?'. It's not being utilized as a tool, but as "solution" that companies are using to make more money and drain resources. I do think there is a place for AI and machine learning in the creative spaces, but until it's more regulated and companies aren't just using it as way for their executives to make a few more million dollars in bonuses, I don't think its smart to wholly rely on it.

I've used AI before as a way to bounce ideas around and get immediate feedback I wasn't able to get from a real live person at the time. Which I think is a defensible and valid reason to use it. Using it to write or create without any human input or editing and just appropriating someone else's ideas that it stole is where I draw the line.

Plus, the AI generated art is terrible.
 
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