Favourite Quotes

[Louanne Learning]

"The ironist is the vampire who has sucked the blood of the lover and while doing so has fanned him cool, lulled him to sleep, and tormented him with troubled dreams."

- Kierkegaard (1841)

 

[Heartlet Happer]

"The ironist is the vampire who has sucked the blood of the lover and while doing so has fanned him cool, lulled him to sleep, and tormented him with troubled dreams."

- Kierkegaard (1841)

Whoa, in 1800s they knew about vampires. I feel for ironist, vampire, lover, Kierkegard, Alanis Morisette, everybody.

 

[Homer Potvin]

Alanis Morisette,

I was thinking about her today. Totally random.

 

[defaux]

I was thinking about her today. Totally random.

You mean ironic?

 

[Also]

You mean ironic?

Poignant, right?

 

[Rath Darkblade]

You mean ironic?

No. Rain on your wedding day is coincidental, not ironic.

There are three main types of irony: verbal (saying the opposite of what is meant - e.g. "This winter storm is so lovely and warm, right?"), situational (the opposite of what is expected happens, e.g. a fire station burning down), and dramatic (the audience knows more than the characters - e.g. Juliet appearing dead while Romeo thinks she is).

Here is George Carlin explaining irony vs. coincidence:

That song by Alanis Morisette has lyrics that are not ironic at all ... which, I suppose, is what makes the song ironic. But so what?

 

[defaux]

No. Rain on your wedding day is coincidental, not ironic.

There are three main types of irony: verbal (saying the opposite of what is meant - e.g. "This winter storm is so lovely and warm, right?"), situational (the opposite of what is expected happens, e.g. a fire station burning down), and dramatic (the audience knows more than the characters - e.g. Juliet appearing dead while Romeo thinks she is).

Here is George Carlin explaining irony vs. coincidence:

That song by Alanis Morisette has lyrics that are not ironic at all ... which, I suppose, is what makes the song ironic. But so what?

As would have been the case should Homer have used the word. The joke still holds

 

[Homer Potvin]

As would have been the case should Homer have used the word. The joke still holds

I was actually thinking of her character in Weeds when she was shaming Andy for ordering a frozen Margarita and he says, "I like slushy drinks!"

She played herself in Curb Your Enthusiasm, too. I think the gag was she had told Larry who You Oughta Know was about, but can't remember.

 

[Naomasa298]

Whoa, in 1800s they knew about vampires. I feel for ironist, vampire, lover, Kierkegard, Alanis Morisette, everybody.

"Knew about vampires"? Dracula came out in 1897, Sheridan Le Fanu's Carmila in 1872 and Polidori's The Vampyre came out in 1816. And I'm fairly sure eastern and southern European beliefs stretch back before then...

 

[Naomasa298]

There are three main types of irony: verbal (saying the opposite of what is meant - e.g. "This winter storm is so lovely and warm, right?"), situational (the opposite of what is expected happens, e.g. a fire station burning down), and dramatic (the audience knows more than the characters - e.g. Juliet appearing dead while Romeo thinks she is).

Have you ever heard of irony, Baldrick?

Yeah, it's like goldy, or bronzy, only it's made out of iron.

 

[Username: required]

Found a quote a few days back and I've really had my mind stuck on it. Really messing with my morals and beliefs lol

"If we asked out of all the things in this universe which one, if altered in a random way, would remain unchanged, the answer is a random sequence. A random sequence changed in a random way remains random. A mess remains a mess."
--Heinz Pagels

 

[Iain Aschendale]

I was actually thinking of her character in Weeds when she was shaming Andy for ordering a frozen Margarita and he says, "I like slushy drinks!"

She played herself in Curb Your Enthusiasm, too. I think the gag was she had told Larry who You Oughta Know was about, but can't remember.

She played herself in Dogma too.

Spoiler

Nah, I don't like her that much, but it was good casting and I just couldn't resist, sorry

 

[JLT]

I came across a quote in Facebook whose origin I'd like to track down. It said, basically, that in a poetry reading there is really no audience, but that the poet is speaking to only one person. I took that to mean that a poetry reading does not involve a classic audience reaction or applause, but is a transaction between the poet and each individual listener.

I think that's true of most of the writing arts. I sit down and write for only the person I imagine reading it. (Kurt Vonnegut recommended that. He said he really wrote for only his late sister. I think I write for my Dad.) If it's published or shared in some form, it's because I want others to listen in. That's the writer's conceit: that anybody would be interested in what's written.

If anybody could help me identify the writer, I'd be grateful. It should go into a section that we used to have in the old forum about "Quotes from Writers" on the art of writing.

 

[Louanne Learning]

a transaction between the poet and each individual listener.

I think that's true of most of the writing arts.

Totally agree. What might make a connection between one artist and the receiver of the art can have no effect on another person. Such is the subjective nature of art. But I think that if the connection is made at least one time, it is art.

 

[Username: required]

“Never use the word ‘audience.’ The very idea of a public, unless the poet is writing for money, seems wrong to me. Poets don’t have an ‘audience.’ They’re talking to a single person all the time.” --Robert Graves (1895-1985)

 

[Rigor Mortis]

“Never use the word ‘audience.’ The very idea of a public, unless the poet is writing for money, seems wrong to me. Poets don’t have an ‘audience.’ They’re talking to a single person all the time.” --Robert Graves (1895-1985)

Man, that was quick. Nicely done @Username: required

 

[Username: required]

Man, that was quick. Nicely done @Username: required

I read so many quotes every day it's kind of bonkers.

 

[Also]

Have you ever heard of irony, Baldrick?

Yeah, it's like goldy, or bronzy, only it's made out of iron.

Thus also less malleable.

 

[Also]

She played herself in Dogma too.

Spoiler

Nah, I don't like her that much, but it was good casting and I just couldn't resist, sorry

Yes, she did. That was a real scream.

 

[Rath Darkblade]

"Knew about vampires"? Dracula came out in 1897, Sheridan Le Fanu's Carmila in 1872 and Polidori's The Vampyre came out in 1816. And I'm fairly sure eastern and southern European beliefs stretch back before then...

Yep, vampire myths go back thousands of years to ancient tales (in Mesopotamian, Hebrew, and Greco-Roman mythology) of blood-drinking demons and spirits.

The specific folklore of the undead, corpse-like vampire originated in Eastern Europe and/or Slavic regions in the early medieval period. The first written reference appearing in Old Russian in 1047, but since the Norse belief in draugr and haugbui goes back further (but the Norse were generally illiterate until the arrival of the Catholic Church), they probably told such tales for hundreds of years before the stories were written down.

Before the Norse, though, there were such noctural creatures as the Babylonian Lamashtu or Greek striges.

The "vampire" creature, for hundreds of years, was a repulsive bloated corpse that would drag you into the grave, or curse you or your farm, etc. It only became a well-mannered aristocrat sometime in the 19th century. Polidori (whom you mentioned) was a friend of Lord Byron's, who might have been an early influence on how a vampire would behave and look like.