Novelcrafter

ASFord

ASFord

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Has anyone here tried Novelcrafter? It seems like a really cool writing programme, especially the Codex feaure, so I'm considering trying it out with their free 21 day trial.

Would love some real life opinions though before I purchase a subscription ☺️
 
I hadn't heard of it, but the organization tools look really interesting. I might try it out 🤔
 
Novelcrafter's got your back, arming you with the tools you need to dream, draft, and deliver your story.

The tools you need to dream, draft, and deliver your story already exist within your own brain. The ability to use those tools improves with practice, which you won't get if you are depending on AI.
 
DLC said:
It sounds like AI bullshit and should be fired into the sun, if so.
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They have a subscription that has no AI use. For the other subscriptions, you have to use an external AI provider (like Chat GPT etc.) linked to your account. There's no obligation to use the AI features :)
 
DLC said:
It sounds like AI bullshit and should be fired into the sun, if so.
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Yeah, that part is definitely shit, but like @ASFord said, you don't have to use them or pay for them, which I checked thoroughly in their faq, pricing, etc. before commenting.
 
CatrionaGrace said:
Novelcrafter's got your back, arming you with the tools you need to dream, draft, and deliver your story.

The tools you need to dream, draft, and deliver your story already exist within your own brain. The ability to use those tools improves with practice, which you won't get if you are depending on AI.
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Yeah, but my brain doesn't help me organize all of it though. And, the AI isn't a required or automatic part of it.
 
DLC said:
It's pretty clear it's focused at using A.I.
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Parts of it are, yes, but like Homer said even Word uses AI now. Using a specific program which has the ability to write using AI doesn't mean an author is or would ever use that option.
 
I might get a lot of stick for this...

But don't use AI.

Writing is an Art, it is a skill that is born inside each person who decides to pick up the pen. Writing is about learning, about reading about putting your thoughts and your soul onto the blank page. Writing is not asking a computer bot to help you set out how to write, style it like someone, correct a sentence so it sounds like everyone else who uses these lazy tools.

If you can't organise... try different methods. Ask... post threads don' don't use AI as a guide or even as a reference.

Stories are not perfect the best stories are those which are beautifully imperfect that that make as perfect as they can be. I can guarantee that every writer here have a story or books that are amazing to them but others may find distinctly average. It doesn't mean that their books are poor or bad... it means that they like something that others do not and that is absolutely okay.

If everyone used AI to formulate and plot and then correct their grammar and spelling and point out passive words and weak sentences by suggesting another... then the writer only gives a premise to a computer. It is no longer creative... it is sprouting out an idea and letting something write a grammar perfect story that has no soul or meaning.

It saddens me when I find out writers who use AI because writing is incorporating your life, your experiences into a story. How you tell it, the tone, the style, the structure is different to everyone. I have a twin brother ... we grew up in the same environment through the same teachings yet our values and dreams and efforts are nothing a like. And it is because what we find is important to us moves us to search and keep these values... and AI wipes this all away.

I have come across so many 'writers' who use AI to assist and yes their writing is clean, it is structured but they have no soul. There is no tension, there is no feel... it is not even by them.

I hate the process of sending stories to readers for feedback because the pain of errors hurt and worse still is when my writing is flagged up as weak and poor. But I absolutely embrace and thank people for this because I can work tirelessly on this to consider ever point that is made. Sure it is easier to run this through AI but it will not sound me. I will reject feedback, I may not use any or i might use all the points given... but this is my choice. It isn't an option set by a computer who does not know or care about me or know what has shaped me.

AI does the same for you and to the next person and the next. You will all sound the same.

Please don't take the short cuts.


And sorry for this post.
 
Trish said:
Parts of it are, yes, but like Homer said even Word uses AI now. Using a specific program which has the ability to write using AI doesn't mean an author is or would ever use that option.
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Hell, by the end of decade there probably won't be a digital application that can't run without an AI interface. Remember corded remote controls in the early 80s? That's where everything non-AI is headed.
 
Homer Potvin said:
Hell, by the end of decade there probably won't be a digital application that can't run without an AI interface. Remember corded remote controls in the early 80s? That's where everything non-AI is headed.
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Exactly. I understand the hate toward AI. I sure as hell don't want it writing anything for me - but like.... it would be nice if people would actually LOOK at it before seeing AI and screaming at their family to go back to the cave 🤣 It's customizable. You can use it just to make character sheets if that's what you want.

It's a little nuts to condemn something because the option of AI exists.
 
Mr Mononoke said:
If everyone used AI to formulate and plot and then correct their grammar and spelling and point out passive words and weak sentences by suggesting another... then the writer only gives a premise to a computer. It is no longer creative... it is sprouting out an idea and letting something write a grammar perfect story that has no soul or meaning.
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Word makes LOTS of suggestions. Tons of them. Thankfully, since I'm a writer and have a plan and a specific thing I'm going for I'm able to ignore it and tell it to shut up. This program is absolutely no different.
 
It's an opinion nothing more.

I don't use Word and bar the automatic redline when I make a typo I use no other tool bar a paperback dictionary.

I am not condemning AI... it is available... I just don't think that a person can call themselves a writer for using them to correct so many things.
 
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Mr Mononoke said:
It's an opinion nothing more.

I don't use Word and bar the automatic redline when I make a typo I use no other tool bar a paperback dictionary.

I am not condemning AI... it is available... I just don't think that a person can call themselves a writer for using them to correct so many things.
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Who is using it though? Are you saying that using this program to organize character sheets and book world information would make someone unworthy of being called a writer? Opinion or not, that's what it sounds like.
 
Mr Mononoke said:
It's an opinion nothing more.

I don't use Word and bar the automatic redline when I make a typo I use no other tool bar a paperback dictionary.

I am not condemning AI... it is available... I just don't think that a person can call themselves a writer for using them to correct so many things.
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So spellcheck earns you the Scarlet AI Letter(s)? I've been using spellcheck since 1989, so I guess I'm not a real writer either. Shit. Please don't tell my wife or mother. They had such high hopes for me.
 
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Thread open again ..one member won't be replying to it in future. For everyone else lets focus on the software at hand not our varying opinions of AI, and also bear in mind the rule about treating each other with respect... saying someone isnt a real writer because they use spellchecker or whatever is pretty disrespectful
 
Hat off , It looks like it would be useful if you;re the type of writer who likes structure, templates etc and you don't mind the subscription. Personally i'm more of a start with a blank page and write kind of guy, so i wouldnt need this...i do all my writing pretty much straight into a word processor
 
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