Plot Types You Love or Leave

Stuart Dren

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Some of the recurring plot types inspire writers to put their own spin on them. Others don't.

I thinking of:

The heist.
Whodunnit.
Time Travel.
Court / political intrigue.
Heart of Darkness-esque.

Some of my examples or those of others may wander more into what's arguably a sub-genre or setting more than plot, and that's fine. This thread's spirit is more just about types of story in general.

What are some kinds that you're itching to write one day, or perhaps already have?
 
For myself, I really want to write a good whodunnit, of course with fantasy / sci fi trappings.

I also want to do something similar to Heart of Darkness in one way or another.

Every time The Heist comes up in fiction it feels tedious. I'd only be interested in writing it is if I find a way to somehow obscure the 'getting the crew together' part. Otherwise I'll probably pass on it.
 
I love stories with cursed characters or political intrigue. I also like alternate worlds/dimension traveling. Not always time travel, though.

I toss out most blatant romances, slices of life, and 'everything is happy and sunny' stories. I am also not huge on thrillers or mysteries.
 
I want to write a full-length horror novel. I've been told I do body-horror really well, and while that's not everyone's cup of chowder, I think there's a way to do it ... artfully? I don't know. I always find beauty in the grotesque (which is my favorite word omg). One of my favorite books recently read (within the last year or so) was E. B. Hudspeth's The Resurrectionist: The Lost Work of Dr. Spencer Black because it connected the grotesque and the beauty of science and anatomy so well for me.

I would not succeed in writing a whodunnit. I also think trying to write happy stories is not my bag of cheese either. This isn't to say I'm unhappy, but I find more of a personal success in writing stories that explore the less happy things.

But if I wrote a sunny horror novel, though....
 
The heist.
Whodunnit.
Time Travel.
Court / political intrigue.
Heart of Darkness-esque.

I did a heist thing once, originally a 5K short story, later expanded to about three times that length to form the opening sequence of a novel series. The genre is a blend of whimsical fantasy comedy, sci-fi, and a goodly dose of cosmic horror, so not purely a heist thing by any means but that is the shelf on which everything else rests. I'm not super familiar with the heist category and its associated tropes, but I think I pulled off some fun spins on it using magic and whatnot. The crews were already gotten together before the start of the story, so I skipped that whole bit. That's crews in the plural, yes, this being a three-way heist where several interested parties are after the same prize. It was an absolute joy to write, so much so that I just had to spin it out into several novels. There's a bit of heisting or heist-adjacent activity in the rest of the story, but for the most part it's just the beginning. It's something I might revisit again, as long as I can think of ways to make it fun and fresh.

And time travel is just something I cannot seem to stay away from, it's my personal siren song. The story mentioned above, in the heist segment, is also thick with time travel and a slew of other chrono-shenanigans. It's a bit less prevalent in my other novel series, but that really isn't saying much. So yeah, love that stuff. Time as a concept is something I just find incredibly fascinating.

I'm the kind of writer who likes to try out a lot of different kinds of story, but there are some things I haven't done to the extent or level of quality I'd like. I've dipped my proboscis in military fiction a whole bunch, but I'd like to write a novel based solely around that at some point; likely not anything actually historical, more probably a sci-fi or steampunk type deal, if not straight fantasy. I also wanna try out more horror, I use a lot of horror elements but seldom if ever have it as the core genre. To me it seems like a bit of a toughie to pull off well. Also the court/political intrigue thing, I do lightweight or humorous or outright farcical versions of that often enough, but I'd like to dig deeper sometime, likely in conjunction with military fiction. Some of my favorite stories pair those two to great effect.

Don't see myself writing a pure whodunnit or similar, that's just not me. I like historical fiction, but I'd obsess too much over the accuracy and drown in the research pit, so I probably wouldn't enjoy the process all that much. Probably won't ever write a pure romance story either, though I like injecting a hearty (yes pun intended lay off me) dose of it into most long-form stuff I write.

All that being said, my philosophy is that genre blending is a jolly good time and a fantastic idea, so most likely I'll just keep trying to create ever stranger strains of hybrid fiction rather than doing any of the above. But one can dream.

As for types of story, a bit away from genre trappings (and speaking of dreams) I have a fondness/weakness for dream sequences, love anything to do with other worlds and dimensions, metaphysical horseshit, weird wonky alien stuff and what have you. My very favorite stories across all media are those where you just don't know where it's going to take you next (sometimes genre blending is a bit part of that) and the sense of reality itself is a bit shaky at the best of times. I like unpredictability and novelty and whimsy, I guess you could say. So I try to offer that through the stories I tell, and I try to do it with humor and a bit of a glint in the eye. The tricky part is marrying all the weirdness to a core of cohesion and consistency, that's always a fun and sometimes completely bloody infuriating challenge. I still do some more grounded and serious stuff, mostly in short story form nowadays.
 
I’m not sure if it has a name other than tragedy (in some instances), but I love sending characters into a downward spiral. Bonus points if weird/creepy things are going on, as well, although I’m not sure I have what it takes, at least at this point, to write straight-up horror.

I also think trying to write happy stories is not my bag of cheese either. This isn't to say I'm unhappy, but I find more of a personal success in writing stories that explore the less happy things.
Same. I will give characters happy moments and blissful moments, but those are rewards for dark and sad main plot lines, and those moments may sometimes come back to haunt them or bite them.

One thing I’m not sure I will ever be able to write at this point in time is a typical romance story. I tried to make that the main plot of both my standalone novel and trilogy when they were brand new, and something else always steals the spotlight. Both books still have romance in them, but it’s not the main plot, and it’s mostly not your typical, meet and fall in love romance.
 
I want to write a full-length horror novel. I've been told I do body-horror really well, and while that's not everyone's cup of chowder, I think there's a way to do it ... artfully? I don't know. I always find beauty in the grotesque (which is my favorite word omg).
Haha: grotesque as a favourite word? Totally normal, nothing wrong with that at all. Your artful / body horror made me think of The Helm of Midnight where a serial killer is disassembling/peeling the victims and arranging them into flowers.

I did a heist thing once, originally a 5K short story, later expanded to about three times that length to form the opening sequence of a novel series. The genre is a blend of whimsical fantasy comedy, sci-fi, and a goodly dose of cosmic horror, so not purely a heist thing by any means but that is the shelf on which everything else rests. I'm not super familiar with the heist category and its associated tropes, but I think I pulled off some fun spins on it using magic and whatnot. The crews were already gotten together before the start of the story, so I skipped that whole bit. That's crews in the plural, yes, this being a three-way heist where several interested parties are after the same prize. It was an absolute joy to write, so much so that I just had to spin it out into several novels. There's a bit of heisting or heist-adjacent activity in the rest of the story, but for the most part it's just the beginning. It's something I might revisit again, as long as I can think of ways to make it fun and fresh.
And time travel is just something I cannot seem to stay away from, it's my personal siren song. The story mentioned above, in the heist segment, is also thick with time travel and a slew of other chrono-shenanigans. It's a bit less prevalent in my other novel series, but that really isn't saying much. So yeah, love that stuff. Time as a concept is something I just find incredibly fascinating.
That sounds pretty wild. Three way heist is one thing, but time travel too? I can see why it became three novels. Makes Ocean's Eleven seem underwhelming in comparison.

I'm the kind of writer who likes to try out a lot of different kinds of story, but there are some things I haven't done to the extent or level of quality I'd like. I've dipped my proboscis in military fiction a whole bunch, but I'd like to write a novel based solely around that at some point; likely not anything actually historical, more probably a sci-fi or steampunk type deal, if not straight fantasy. I also wanna try out more horror, I use a lot of horror elements but seldom if ever have it as the core genre. To me it seems like a bit of a toughie to pull off well. Also the court/political intrigue thing, I do lightweight or humorous or outright farcical versions of that often enough, but I'd like to dig deeper sometime, likely in conjunction with military fiction. Some of my favorite stories pair those two to great effect.
Yeah horror as a core genre could be hard. I'd always be tempted to hitch it to something in my comfort zone. It's funny, one of my favourite combos is sci fi horror, but I like it so much that it feels like my attempts wouldn't do it justice.

I’m not sure if it has a name other than tragedy (in some instances), but I love sending characters into a downward spiral. Bonus points if weird/creepy things are going on, as well, although I’m not sure I have what it takes, at least at this point, to write straight-up horror.
Do the characters succumb to their failings? I would call it a tragedy at least in those cases.

I toss out most blatant romances, slices of life, and 'everything is happy and sunny' stories.
One thing I’m not sure I will ever be able to write at this point in time is a typical romance story. I tried to make that the main plot of both my standalone novel and trilogy when they were brand new, and something else always steals the spotlight. Both books still have romance in them, but it’s not the main plot, and it’s mostly not your typical, meet and fall in love romance.
Yep I could never be a genre romance writer. I would break the rule of them having to get together at the end. I like love that is implied to possibly happen in the future, or would have happened if not for something in the plot, or just turns into a great friendship. I also want to write a military sci fi that's actually about a married couple's faith and trust in each other being put to the greatest imaginable challenges in a world that's falling apart.
 
Do the characters succumb to their failings? I would call it a tragedy at least in those cases.
Yes and no. My standalone - no, not really. It’s tragic as in the end is super sad, but the character does get out of his spiral (which is not a very steep spiral, but a lengthy one with small upward bumps occasionally). But I wrote it when I was younger, so, understandably, it’s not really a tragedy.

My trilogy - yes. The first book was written with the intent of using my knowledge from college English classes on tragedies. The MC works himself into a downward spiral due to his stupid decisions made because of a combination of his living situation and rather nasty, arrogant attitude. The first book stands alone in its tragedy. I think I need to revise books two and three a little more in order to bring them up to par with the tragedy of the first. I just really let myself take the second and third book where I wanted and didn’t worry much about what was going on on the page in the moment.

Yep I could never be a genre romance writer. I would break the rule of them having to get together at the end. I like love that is implied to possibly happen in the future, or would have happened if not for something in the plot, or just turns into a great friendship. I also want to write a military sci fi that's actually about a married couple's faith and trust in each other being put to the greatest imaginable challenges in a world that's falling apart.
Now that I think about it, maybe I like to break people up (either by break-up or death) more than put them together. Out of all the my stories I can think of, whether they are written or not yet written, there are at least six couples/could’ve-been couples that have been broken up or separated by death and only two that survive my wrath. 😬 I feel like that says something about me. Probably that I should not try writing typical romance anytime soon.
 
Writing in multiple genres is a good thing, IMHO. Many writers have done that.

Robert E Howard wrote his famous sword and sorcery stores and also wierd westerns and comedy westerns. I think he also wrote a few wierd detective stories, but I wouldn’t swear to it.

Frederick Faust wrote westerns as Max Brand, medical mysteries (Dr Kildare) and swashbucklers. Topping it off, he was also a combat reporter during WWII and was killed in Italy in 1944.
 
Haha: grotesque as a favourite word? Totally normal, nothing wrong with that at all.

Dang right it's normal. Happens to be my second favorite word, after eldritch.

That sounds pretty wild. Three way heist is one thing, but time travel too? I can see why it became three novels. Makes Ocean's Eleven seem underwhelming in comparison.

No time travel involved in the actual heist, I should say. That wasn't really a thing when I wrote the original short, it came along later when I opened up the setting. Outside of freak occurrences, time travel and similar is restricted to a handful of specific characters. Time as a whole is a big thing, almost a character in its own right, but never really takes center stage. There's a lot of other stuff going on, including a galaxy-level war (my first proper foray into military fiction and I'm not sure I'm doing it right) and a couple of space horror segments, plus a lot of soap opera and sitcom type stuff. This series, The Yggdrasilium, is where my genre blending is at its blendiest. It's three books if I'm lucky and show unusual restraint.

I forgot to mention my love of cyberpunk and space opera, those are both things I want to explore further. I've done numerous cyberpunk shorts (not all of them finished) but I'd really like to do a complete novel. I wanna do a comedic take on space opera some day, similar to how I've done for different kinds of fantasy (The Yggdrasilium being the poster child for the Fantasy Kitchen Sink trope, and The Eight Barrows Braves embodying LitRPG and classic adventure stories) into which I'll likely blend cyberpunk and various other sci-fi types. I already have some drafts to that effect.

One thing I’m not sure I will ever be able to write at this point in time is a typical romance story. I tried to make that the main plot of both my standalone novel and trilogy when they were brand new, and something else always steals the spotlight. Both books still have romance in them, but it’s not the main plot, and it’s mostly not your typical, meet and fall in love romance.

Now that I think about it, maybe I like to break people up (either by break-up or death) more than put them together. Out of all the my stories I can think of, whether they are written or not yet written, there are at least six couples/could’ve-been couples that have been broken up or separated by death and only two that survive my wrath. 😬 I feel like that says something about me. Probably that I should not try writing typical romance anytime soon.

I take a similar approach to romance, with a couple of exceptions. I seem to write a lot of exes and divorcees, widows and widowers, that sort of thing, but I try to make a fresh and unique spin to every relationship I write, whether the relationship is in the past tense, ongoing, or just forming. Love, romance, and relationships overall is such a fun realm to explore, and there's an abundance of things you can do with it outside of the tried and true meet cute into happily ever after pipeline. My favorite love story I ever wrote is about a widower whose wife died before the beginning, but later comes back as a ghost. I think they're in for a happy ending against all odds. I wasn't even going to have the wife as a true character, just a bit of backstory, but she forced her way in. Their love is palpable and almost cosmic in nature, so who am I to rain on their already soggy parade? Right now I'm doing a more traditional beginning-to-end love story (with complications) and maybe that one will turn out okay also. But I really like exploring the darker sides of relationships, the dynamics that happen after the end, be they amicable or not (usually not, in my writing).
 
I also want to write a military sci fi that's actually about a married couple's faith and trust in each other being put to the greatest imaginable challenges in a world that's falling apart.
Have you read Shards of Honor and Barrayar by Lois McMaster Bujold? Your description sounds like those books. Shards kind of meanders around and is oddly paced, but Barrayar (which follows on directly from Shards) is such a fun sci-fi romp about family, trust and honour.

I’m itching to write a sort of episodic sci-fi adventure story like Star Trek, which has an overarching plot but is largely told through short stories with a range of characters. Kind of like the first two Witcher books. I’ve not read anything quite like it yet, although A Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet goes in that direction.
 
I’m itching to write a sort of episodic sci-fi adventure story like Star Trek

Mentioned in my post just now how I'd like to do space opera type stuff in the future, it's something that's been on my mind for years but I'm increasingly leaning towards a Star Trek flavor for whatever I'm gonna do. I've only been initiated into that fandom for a couple of years, I'm still catching up, but this is something I think the world could stand to have more of. I'd love to do something in that vein, not necessarily episodic but in the same spirit.
 
Mentioned in my post just now how I'd like to do space opera type stuff in the future, it's something that's been on my mind for years but I'm increasingly leaning towards a Star Trek flavor for whatever I'm gonna do. I've only been initiated into that fandom for a couple of years, I'm still catching up, but this is something I think the world could stand to have more of. I'd love to do something in that vein, not necessarily episodic but in the same spirit.
I enjoy space operas too, but I want something a bit more homely… not too light, not too dark, something expansive and fun but with stakes. I think Star Trek hits the tone nicely there. Totally agree with it being “something the world could stand to have more of.” I don’t think I’d aim from Star Trek level of corniness but it has its charm.
 
I enjoy space operas too, but I want something a bit more homely… not too light, not too dark, something expansive and fun but with stakes. I think Star Trek hits the tone nicely there. Totally agree with it being “something the world could stand to have more of.” I don’t think I’d aim from Star Trek level of corniness but it has its charm.

I fell in love with Star Trek TNG so fast, and now I'm into DS9. This is precisely the kind of thing I wanna do in my next big sci-fi thing. That homely feeling is the holy grail of what I wanna capture. I think I do an overall good job of catching the cozy, homely vibe in my writing, but at some post I wanna drill it down to bedrock. Star Trek is full of characters I just envy. If I could write anyone, ever, as compelling as Mr. Data, I could be happy. He's my favorite in all of Star Trek so far, by a decent margin. I guess I just relate to his hyper-autistic way of navigating life.
 
Dang right it's normal. Happens to be my second favorite word, after eldritch.
As an aside, with the tone not being conveyed through text and all, I hope I didn't come across as mean spirited. I intended it as ribbing while highlighting uniqueness. I genuinely don't think there's anything wrong with liking any words.

Grotesque has that puckering of the mouth to say 'gro' followed by wide-mouth 'skeh' which is super satisfying as far as muscular and acoustic contrast goes, and it carries bold meaning. Oops I started saying it out loud without realising.
Have you read Shards of Honor and Barrayar by Lois McMaster Bujold? Your description sounds like those books. Shards kind of meanders around and is oddly paced, but Barrayar (which follows on directly from Shards) is such a fun sci-fi romp about family, trust and honour.
Never heard of the two but I'll put them on the to-read list.
I’m itching to write a sort of episodic sci-fi adventure story like Star Trek, which has an overarching plot but is largely told through short stories with a range of characters. Kind of like the first two Witcher books. I’ve not read anything quite like it yet, although A Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet goes in that direction.
I'm entirely familiar with the format and entirely at a loss for examples (other than those Witcher books). I can't recall if they were linear. Seems like it would be harder to pull off as linear, actually.
 
Now that I think about it, maybe I like to break people up (either by break-up or death) more than put them together. Out of all the my stories I can think of, whether they are written or not yet written, there are at least six couples/could’ve-been couples that have been broken up or separated by death and only two that survive my wrath. 😬 I feel like that says something about me. Probably that I should not try writing typical romance anytime soon.
Yeah not exactly the harlequin template :D.

At first I inferred you meant that death has led to a break up OR separation in 6 / 8 GlitterRain fic. incipient-or-otherwise couples™, and I thought "Good grief, that's an odd distinction," followed by "oh boy that's quite the binary relationship outcome." I don't know, it's 1 am after a 10 hr shift; my brain's on aux. power.
 
I'm entirely familiar with the format and entirely at a loss for examples (other than those Witcher books). I can't recall if they were linear. Seems like it would be harder to pull off as linear, actually.
I have a question that is veering off-topic but maybe someone has a quick answer (and if not I’ll post a new thread). Why don’t we see more books following a similar format as TV shows with “episodes,” where some episodes further the plot and some are only for character development/worldbuilding? I know there are series of books that do this (especially in mystery) where each book is essentially an episode, but it also seems to lend itself to short stories. The Witcher does that with the collection of short stories, alternating non-linearly between stories from the past and adventures from the present that develop the overarching plot, and in most cases the past stories don’t relate to the plot. I’ve often heard people arguing that a scene shouldn’t go into a story if it doesn’t further the plot in some form, which is the main argument I can think that goes against an episodic short-story-collection novel.
 
As an aside, with the tone not being conveyed through text and all, I hope I didn't come across as mean spirited. I intended it as ribbing while highlighting uniqueness. I genuinely don't think there's anything wrong with liking any words.

Grotesque has that puckering of the mouth to say 'gro' followed by wide-mouth 'skeh' which is super satisfying as far as muscular and acoustic contrast goes, and it carries bold meaning.

Not at all, for my part. My own tone there was supposed to be one of, I don't know, gentle glibness? Cheery quasi-sarcasm? But yeah, genuinely love those words and probably overuse them. Grotesque is marginally more pleasant to say (though eldritch has a nice tickle to it) but Eldritch has a more attractive word silhouette (but only when capitalized, I'm not too crazy about the lower-case aesthetic). Don't get me wrong, grotesque is a shapely and well-balanced creature in its own right (again really benefiting from capitalization. Yes I see the pun and I refuse to make it). I used to capitalize every instance of Eldritch in the book to jokingly give it a sense of overblown bombast, but now my reasoning is that it's prettier :)

Oops I started saying it out loud without realising.

Good, good... Let it flow through you.
 
I have a question that is veering off-topic but maybe someone has a quick answer (and if not I’ll post a new thread). Why don’t we see more books following a similar format as TV shows with “episodes,” where some episodes further the plot and some are only for character development/worldbuilding? I know there are series of books that do this (especially in mystery) where each book is essentially an episode, but it also seems to lend itself to short stories. The Witcher does that with the collection of short stories, alternating non-linearly between stories from the past and adventures from the present that develop the overarching plot, and in most cases the past stories don’t relate to the plot. I’ve often heard people arguing that a scene shouldn’t go into a story if it doesn’t further the plot in some form, which is the main argument I can think that goes against an episodic short-story-collection novel.
I wonder if Sapkowski wrote them initially planning that format for release. Apparently if you didn't plan it beforehand, linking it together afterwards for release is called a fix-up Fix-up - Wikipedia.

As for why, it might just not be as broadly satisfying the common formats. TV dramas seem to move towards stronger plot arcs.

On the other hand, something like that might stand out among all the novel trilogies and anthologies today.
 
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