Suggestions and ideas

[big soft moose]

I'm not trying to be an asshole, but does this not feel a bit like "boys can't be expected to keep their eyes to themselves so girls can't wear short skirts"?

well no... its more like the girls want to be able to wear short skirts without being hassled by a bunch of skeavy creeps who can't keep their eyes to themselves, so a club has a no oggling the girls rule

but now a few people want that rule altered because they're not skeezy creeps and are just their to admire the girl's aesthetic beauty, and expect the bouncers to be able to tell the difference, and are getting bent out of shape because the management don't want to make a rule change that they know from past experience will bring in all the skeezy creepers and ruin the club for all the girls and boys who just want to dance... and potentially lead to the city taking away their licence

 

[JT Woody]

So again, immature assholes ruin it for others.

I'm not trying to be an asshole, but does this not feel a bit like "boys can't be expected to keep their eyes to themselves so girls can't wear short skirts"?

And again, I understand why it's a problem, but it's disappointing that no one seems to see a problem with it being a problem. Instead of expecting people not to shoot for no reason the answer is "be a smaller target".

Its like ants to a picnic.
Most people enjoy picnics, but picnics attract ants. We can take precautions or pluck them off, but ants will always be there. And, as enjoyable as picnics are, spending the time worrying about ants in your food or on you clothes gets kinda old real fast.
Only way to NOT be annoyed by ants, is not to picnic
(OR move your picnic to a picnic table/DMs)

At least... that how i view the whole thing

 

[big soft moose]

And again, I understand why it's a problem, but it's disappointing that no one seems to see a problem with it being a problem. Instead of expecting people not to shoot for no reason the answer is "be a smaller target".

The other thing is it could be that people don't see it as a problem because its not a problem for them becasuse they have no interest in reading eroitica and/or don't want the problems that go along with it

again its not about expecting people not to shoot for no reason, its about not varying the rule that says this is a library not a shooting range

 

[big soft moose]

Anyway to draw this to a close because i want to go to bed (its gone 3am here), we'll discuss it in the staff room, but for now the rules are unchanged.

 

[Trish]

. basically she was a sexual predator who was pressuring a young and naive girl to have a threesome with her and her partner... she got banned (by wrey, this was before i was a mod) of course but the operative point ws that she was an established member... also she was a freakshow who was into vampire role play erotica.

I definitely wasn't there for that.

well no... its more like the girls want to be able to wear short skirts without being hassled by a bunchof skeavy creeps who can't keep their eues to themselves, so a club has a no oggling the girls rule

I've always been a fairly adequate bouncer on my own.

but now a few people want that rule altered because they're not skeezy creeps and are just their to admire the girl's aesthic beaty, and expect the bouncers to be able to tell the difference and are getting bent out of shape because the bouncers don't want to make a rule change that they know frompast experience will bring in all the skeezy creepers

I don't actually. I get it. I understand. I just asked if we're allowed to do it in DM's which (as far as I know, wouldn't require rule changes?). Or do you guys have to monitor DM's as well?

again its not about expecting people not to shoot for no reason, its about not varying the rule that says this is a library not a shooting range

Libraries have erotica. At least the ones I've been to, because erotica is a valid form of literature, which I'm not even asking about at this point - I'm asking about sex scenes from romance novels. I could shop the "clean" parts in the regular workshop as planned.

Also - if you've already answered the DM thing and I've missed it, I apologize but my power keeps flickering and then new messages pop up so I'm not sure if I'm up to date with what's been said.
Really though, I'm not even asking that anymore- I'm asking about the DM thing. Is that okay if people are willing to do it?

 

[big soft moose]

the rules apply everywhere on site including in the dms... that said we don't police them unless we really have to, we can only see them if someone reports them (or in the nuclear option where we take an account over... which we'd only ever do in the most extreme circumstances where the law was being broken)

ergo freinds can discuss anything they want in DMs within reason but if someone complains they are being sent anything that breaks the rules we'll act acordingly

 

[Trish]

the rules apply everywhere on site including in the dms... that said we don't police them unless we really have to, we can only see them if someone reports them (or in the nuclear option where we take an account over... which we'd only ever do in the most extreme circumstances where the law was being broken)

ergo freinds can discuss anything they want in DMs within reason but if someone complains they are being sent anything that breaks the rules we'll act acordingly

Fair enough. Thank you for answering. Have a good night.

 

[Homer Potvin]

Final answer: no erotica anywhere. I apologize for any confusion. Moving on....